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  • kristina.'s picture
    (1 year 4 months ago)

    Trey Songz released Chapter V August 21, with 134,917 in first week sales. "Heart Attack" peaked at #35 on Billboard Hot 100, #3 on Hot R&B/Hip Hop Songs,#6 on Hot R&B Songs. "2 Reasons" peaked at #43 on Billboard Hot 100, #7 on Hot R&B/Hip Hop Songs, #3 Hot R&B Songs, #25 on Rap Songs, #27 Pop Songs, "Dive In" peaked at #77 on Billboard Hot 100, #5 on Hot R&B/Hip Songs, and #9 on R&B Songs. This week the album, Chapter V only charted on Billboard Hot R&B/ Hip Hop Albums Chart at #24. It did not chart on Billboard 200. What is the problem. Lack of promo? Bad single choices? Lack of consumers/fans buying the album? Are people over Trey Songz? What are your thoughts?

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kristina.'s picture
on November 29, 2012 - 9:20pm
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Trey Songz released Chapter V August 21, with 134,917 in first week sales. "Heart Attack" peaked at #35 on Billboard Hot 100, #3 on Hot R&B/Hip Hop Songs,#6 on Hot R&B Songs. "2 Reasons" peaked at #43 on Billboard Hot 100, #7 on Hot R&B/Hip Hop Songs, #3 Hot R&B Songs, #25 on Rap Songs, #27 Pop Songs, "Dive In" peaked at #77 on Billboard Hot 100, #5 on Hot R&B/Hip Songs, and #9 on R&B Songs. This week the album, Chapter V only charted on Billboard Hot R&B/ Hip Hop Albums Chart at #24. It did not chart on Billboard 200. What is the problem. Lack of promo? Bad single choices? Lack of consumers/fans buying the album? Are people over Trey Songz? What are your thoughts?

efreeman_20's picture

Of course he had singles that I think could have been better to release but I dont think there was a need to because he already have that fan base. 2 Reason was more of a club banger and Simply Amazing was more on a pop song to sell to more of a diverse type of crowd and that was his main goal. Heart Attack was more for his fans that he already have. What I have noticed when I go to his concerts is that he spend more time on the songs that us Angels like. For example, Fumble, Without a Women, Dont Be Scared, he spent ample time displaying the messsage from those songs. Although I do love the R&B side of Trey Songz, I like how he incorporated the Rap in this album because that was his first love. Keep doing what you Trey because I been a fan since the very beginning. Every year you show my city love (STL) and I'm not mad at you and the decisions you make.

efreeman_20's picture

I do not know exactly how many albums were sold or where his singles was placed on the Billboard but what I do know is that Chapter V was a great Album. I could play his album over and over and over again and I still will not get tired of it. As far as the singles that were released prior to the album coming out, I think they were a great choice for what he was trying to accomplish, which is broading his fan base. T

JesusIsMySavior's picture

I think most R&B artists aren't fairing to well now a days sadly. With that in mind Trey isn't doing too bad. I believe at this point Chapter V sold over 300,000. So far none of his singles on Chapter V have made it to number 1 on the R&B/Hip Hop singles charts yet, but the majority made it into the top ten. I think Without A Woman and Fumble could potentially be number 1 hits for him. I think lack of promo and lack of consumers buying music is the main problem.

kristina.'s picture

Yeah most r&b artists can't get past 500,000 copies. Hopefully, he will do better this year. I think he should release, Fumble, Playin' Hard, Bad Decisions, and Without a Woman as singles. And yes, he lack of promo is the reason for low album sales.

JesusIsMySavior's picture

God willing he will do better. :)

Tricia AKA @GimmeUnusual's picture

I completely agree with you Numba1Hon. I do understand why Trey mixes it up. He tries to reach a lot of different listeners, but the other reason, which I believe is the main reason is that he really just loves singing different styles. As a fellow music lover, I honestly love all types of music. I have blues albums, hip hop albums, straight R&B, I have many jazz albums, I have a few soft rock albums, I listen to pop, alternative, and believe it or not, I DIG Rascal Flatts (country music), not to mention Carrie Underwood & Taylor Swift. I think Trey is so engulfed with his love for many styles, that he tries to give it all to his listeners. We won't receive them all, but I can't fault him for trying. For the most part, I do like most of his sounds and I appreciate the effort. Now the first & main love is R&B and I wish he would make albums at least 75% R&B since that's how he got us. He gotta keep us that same way...(even though I ain't going no where!)

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@GimmeUnusual: I don't have a problem with the Pop songs. I like Simply Amazing and I can tell he loves singing it and he sounds really good. I also like Ladies Go Wild and Never Again but I wanted him to create some R&B songs comparable to Can't Be Friends----some serious R&B with really great lush musical instrumentation. I think much of the R&B on V are teasers/appetizers; e.g. Chpt. V, Panty Wetter, Dive-In. After that I am ready to hear some serious adult business. Fumble does not do it for me. IMO Trey is going to do some legendary R&B when he is ready/ripe. I know it's coming because I can see and hear it in the way he now sings Can't Be Friends. I want him to make a song out of Pleasure Interlude so bad but I will wait. I played that more than 300 times on I-Tunes listening to every bit of it. I love music myself. I have about 30 genres on my PC alone not to mention my hard collection.

JesusIsMySavior's picture

I love the Pleasure interlude too.

JesusIsMySavior's picture

I agree the bulk of his music should always be R&B.

Numba1Hon's picture

Cont'd.
I think the lyrics of Without a Woman are sweet and thoughtful, but I think this particular R&B style is too old fashioned for Trey. In contrast, Doorbell has the same sound, but the risqué lyrics make it more contemporary, tintillating and suitable for Trey. Personally, I was hoping Trey would make a full song out of Pleasure (the PPP interlude) or even the tune he was crooning online in Self Magazine. Those songs would sound really passionate and sexy and I think Trey fans like to see him sing like that. That was a big missed opportunity. That would have been on some Marvin Gaye level. It’s still not too late. Sometimes an artist has to stick with the known favorites and try new sounds in smaller doses. Too many changes or shocks and you lose potential customers. I hope Trey does better overseas and that he and his team will find the problem and solution. No I don’t think fans are tired of Trey. I agree that he may have his ups and downs just like any other artist, but I still see fans losing their minds worst than ever.

kristina.'s picture

Most of the songs on the album I enjoy :Simply Amazing, Never Again, Almost Lose It, Bad Decisions, Without a Woman, Pretty Girls Lie, Fumble, and Heart Attack. I can do without 2 Reasons, Don't You Be Scared, and Check Me Out. I think the problem with Trey is most fhis ans like "old fashioned R&B"; that's why majority of them like I Gotta Make It. Another problem is, most of his fans like "his mixtape sound"; that's why most of them like Trey Day and Anticipation. Most of them like "his baby-making music"; that's why most of them like Passion, Pain & Pleasure. Most of the like the "commerical, mainstream sound; that's why most of them like Ready. You have people, like my mom, who like his earlier work; then, you have people who like his mixtapes; then, you have people who like Ready, PPP, & Chapter V. I think the problem is that Trey gives us too much free music and when he releases an album, no one buys it. I also think he is trying to cater to an audience that only buys singles and not albums. You have people who like songs, such as, Gotta Make It, Gotta Go, Last Time, We Should Be, Jupiter Love, One Love, Can't Be Friends, Please Return My Call, Fumble, and Without A Woman. Then, you have people who like In Da Middle, Role Play, Neighbors Know My Name, DoorBell, and Dive In. Then, you have people who like 2 Reasons, Hail Mary, Check Me Out, Don't You Be Scared, etc. His needs to find a sound and stick with it. He needs to stop trying to please everyone. I would like him sing more and rap less on his albums. He needs to stop releasing mixtapes and just put the songs on an album.

JesusIsMySavior's picture

I think the mixtapes are what keeps him alive. I think his fans adore the fact that he releases good music that is free. I believe he said it before he is more free to express himself when he does his mixtapes. There are more restriction with his other music.

Numba1Hon's picture

I must say there are many good things about the album and fans are digging a lot of the songs, enjoying the great videos, and going to the concerts so I thought the sales would be higher. I THINK the setback might be caused because the predominant sound of the non-HipHop music on Chapter V sounds like Pop----meaning it’s designed to appeal mostly to the masses and not Trey’s core urban fan base. Also transitions from one song to another are often not smooth. This disrupts the flow so it’s hard to rock with the music and stay in a groove for any period. Then some fans were offended by 2 Reasons and shocked by Hail Mary. I think these two songs damaged Trey’s image. Some fans and potential fans want Trey to become a more conscious and less sex oriented artist, and these songs killed any hope of that. Others wanted R&B sounds similar to Can’t Be Friends, or Massage in addition to the playful appetizers like Dive In and Panty Wetter. Some wanted more R&B sounds like those on his mixtapes.

JesusIsMySavior's picture

You make some valid points.

Tricia AKA @GimmeUnusual's picture

I must also say, as a huge Trey fan, I also didn't play Chapter V as long as I've played all his other albums. Even though I like almost every song, I got tired of it faster than normally. I can't explain why that is, but it's my least favorite album--which is not saying much because it's in my CD player right now. I have moments when I want to hear it & times I don't. Sometimes I go to the older albums & play it straight for 2-3 weeks, where Chapter V probably got a one week straight play. I think it may have something to do with many of the singles being played out on the radio already, which led to me skipping to the songs I hadn't heard yet. I played those so much that I was ready for something new sooner than usual. I also think it may be some of the single choices. I would've preferred songs from "Anticipation II" used for an album instead like "Don't Judge", "French Kiss", "Still Scratching Me Up" and I completely adore "I Do" from the Inevitable EP. I think Panty Wetter instead of Dive In would've been better. So that's just my opinion of what I would've loved released more, but I still think the singles released were exceptional. Trey is extremely talented.

Tricia AKA @GimmeUnusual's picture

I don't think it's a matter of people being tired of Trey--I think it's just a lot of musical options right now. With Miguel, Ne-Yo, Chris Brown, Kelly Rowland, Keyshia Cole, Brandy, and Usher also having album/single releases since then, people are just moving on to the next new thing. Not to mention all the new releases in Hip Hop. I think the release of "Fumble" will rocket launch Trey back to the top. I think "Fumble" has the lasting power of "Can't Be Friends." "Can't Be Friends" is Trey's most successful record thus far It stayed on the charts for a very long time. "Fumble" is another one of his songs that really connects to the listeners. I believe Trey will be in this roller coaster of a business for a very long time. He'll make hits...some okay songs...some bombs...and do it all over again. He'll be just fine...and with Angels like us...we won't be letting him go ANYWHERE!!!

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