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    October 11, 2011

    This is something I wanted to talk about for a long time but never got a chance. Seeing what people had to say on twitter today just put me over the edge. What is the issue between Trey's Angels and Team Breezy? Why can't people support both? I am both Trey's Angels and Team Breezy. I love both of them as artist and I support them as much as possible. I see on twitter angels saying that other angels shouldn't support Chris and vice versa. Trey wouldn't want his angels fighting with Team Breezy. Can someone explain the problem between these to groups.

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AshlynBalmyAngel's picture
on Oct 11, 2011 - 03:06PM

This is something I wanted to talk about for a long time but never got a chance. Seeing what people had to say on twitter today just put me over the edge. What is the issue between Trey's Angels and Team Breezy? Why can't people support both? I am both Trey's Angels and Team Breezy. I love both of them as artist and I support them as much as possible. I see on twitter angels saying that other angels shouldn't support Chris and vice versa. Trey wouldn't want his angels fighting with Team Breezy. Can someone explain the problem between these to groups.

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Shay - Epiphany Angel's picture

@ NUMBA1HON What's your Twitter name?

Leah_13's picture

i think sometimes people make the being on "teams" issue too big of a deal... i'm part of trey's angels and i love chris brown too... good music is good music and isn't that what its all about? being a part of a fan club isn't to create unnecessary drama between fans... its to support the artist to continue making the music that you fell in love with. the negativity and hate between people is not accomplishing anything... in trey's own words, "Hate will get you nowhere!" that is all =)
oh n @TIFFAN700 i totally agree with everything you commented on =)

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If I offended you by agreeing with any comments, that was not my intention to offend anyone. I agree with the POSITIVE emotion of being a true loyal fan. The other stuff I recognized to be just comments made in frustration that really don’t necessarily apply to anyone. You can’t fault die hard Angels for wanting all Angels to be loyal especially when wearing the Title. They know which team they are on. It would not be a real fan club if that spirit did not exist. We might as well disband or all go over and vote for Breezy.

You can always support an artist whether you are in a fan club or not. Almost everything concerning Trey is on TreySongz.com for the general membership. I am not saying this to convince anybody to get out of the fan club. I am just pointing out the facts. It is up to each TeamBreezy Angel or a TeamBreezy Stan to determine if they can handle being a member and what may come along with it if they are because of their allegiance. If you all don’t understand this yet, we are going to have to ask JoJo Brim or somebody else for some help because this is getting out of my realm of expertise. And I hope Breezy fans don’t take this the wrong way because I am not telling any fans to get out of the club. Who the hell am I to do that?

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@Tiffan700 You are still venting emotionally and it is obscuring the issue. If you truly understood, the hurt would go away. That is how I know what is going on. I am sorry for everything that upset you because I think you are a good person. I agree Fans should be able to come together most of the time, but when there is COMPETITION, only one can win. That is when you become an opponent of the Angels. I am not judging. I am making an observation. As I said, you seem to be a good person and you don’t seem to be the type of person that would intentionally do something to hurt or insult the Angels or Trey. But you have to accept some responsibility in this if you want to belong to the fan club of both artists. I am not saying you should not support both artists and that you do not deserve to be an Angel, and I am not saying you should be attacked. All of the Angels are not attacking other Angels and all don’t agree with it. I am saying that if you are an Angel voting for Breezy then you have to recognize what that means and accept some of the consequences when things get heated, try to understand it and then let this go. Look at it as Angels going through changes because they are trying to achieve a goal and you are not helping them achieve it when it is critical for them to win. If you take some responsibility, then I say you are wearing your big gurl panties. If you don’t, you are acting like a victim and I have no sympathy.

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@cuttigurl609 gurl he really was super sweet

@Jesusismysavior Thanks gurl. I wasn't gonna try and justify at first, but I couldn't stay quiet any more. Neither one of our teams are perfect, and I talk to team breezy all the time about how all this stupid fighting shit is ridiculous. I know a lot of team breezy can go overboard, i'm not biased by any means, at all. If you're wrong, you're wrong. I feel like we should be able to come together and support each other, TOGETHER. Trey would win a lot more with more support, then just a few fans that believe that their die hard so only their supposed to be here. If team breezy and the "believers" can come together and support...(as annoying as hell as they can be) why can't we? You can win more than with less.

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@NUMBA1HON Thank you for saying that. And I honestly do understand the emotion that goes into being a fan trust me. With all the shit that we've been through with Chris for the past 3 years, how can I not? But that's just it. A lot of Angels joined the Team Breezy train also. How would you guys feel if I went around saying to everyone, you don't deserve to be here? Where were you guys three years ago when we needed you? Hell, where were you a year ago when we needed you? When Chris was on his say now begging for any support that he could get from his fans, if he had any left at all. A lot of people that claim to be apart of team breezy were not there. I was there through it all. I consider myself a true fan of his. I would never go around telling everybody since you weren't here from the beginning then don't call yourself #Team Breezy, you're a fake fan, you're a fake fan, blah, blah, blah. I could easily pull the you're hopping on because he's hot again card. But I don't do that, because i'm genuinely happy and grateful for the support that he is receiving now, and any little bit helps. All he wants is for people to love him. I would think that that would be the same situation for Trey, and that his fans would be grateful that he's gaining more support. But apparently i'm wrong.

However, I do understand the other point of views, I just can't agree with them. I'm sorry, but I have to be honest.. That moment that he shared with me, is a moment that he gave to me, and only he can take it away from me. He didn't ask me if I was a die hard fan before he told me he loved me. He genuinely appreciated my support in showing up to get my cd signed by him. That meant a lot to me. That's gonna stay with me forever, and i'm sorry but there's no way i'm gonna let anyone tell me that i'm not worthy of being here. If he has a problem with me supporting both artists, then he'll have to tell me that himself. Honestly, I don't believe he's truly that way.

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@Jemail I am glad.

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Ok I now understand. @Numba1Hon thaks

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I meant no where to put them.

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@JEMAIL
TreySongz.com in not a fan club. Treys website is TreySongz.com and all fans can become a member free of charge.
Trey's Angels is separate and it is the FanClub. AWH is only part of the Trey's Angels fan club The video you saw about AWH is when Trey decided he was receiving a large number of gifts and he had no way to put them. So he got the idea to start a foundation to help people in need. The foundation is AWH which is a part of Trey's Angels fan club. It is not the main purpose for Trey's Angels. The main purpose is to support Trey in all his endeavors. AWH being one of them.

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Trey states why he created the Angels fan club below. I put the definitions there for clarity. Maybe this will help some fans understand.

http://www.treysongz.com/video/welcome-to-treys-angels/

KEY WORD: created for his most dedicated and LOYAL fans

LOYALTY
? the quality of being loyal
? feelings of allegiance
? the act of binding yourself (intellectually or emotionally) to a course of action

LOYAL
1. steadfast in allegiance or duty;
2. unwavering in devotion to friend or vow or cause;
- Example: "loyal supporters"

ALLEGIANCE
?noun: strong loyalty to a person, group, idea, or country

LOYAL adjective
? firm and not changing in your friendship with or support for a person or an
organization, or in your belief in your principles
Opposite: disloyal

DISLOYAL
Definition
not loyal; not supporting someone that you should support

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@Numba1hun I do understand what u mean but always thought TreySongz.com was the fan club and TreysAngels is for dedicated funs and mainly for AWHM. Was on the fun club for a year before becoming an Angel but only signed up to the Angel club after watching Trey's video clip talking about TreysAngels. I remember him saying that it is for all dedicated funs and who want to be part of the AWHMissions. So I believed that was the main purpose for treysAngels.

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Alright Was upset about a particular comment On this post not what goes on on Twitter coz I never participate in such arguments as I respect both artists. but am cool now don't know Trey but judging from what I've learnt about him I don't think his that sort of person. I always laugh off those belittle comments they irk me but At the same time I believe whoever takes part is arrogant/childish etc. That's why I don't pay attention to them. I know the fun club is new & didn't expect any competitions either to be honest am not even bothered if we don't get them coz I most likely not going to participate. Like I said as long as I can afford to go to concert & buys records that's all that maters to me. I just felt that it was not right for one to say that Angels that Stan for Chris are fake and are only here to meet Trey. I do understand how it feels like for those die hard funs to see someone supporting both but I feel whoever commented went overboard.

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"I also want to say to you all. You know who you are and what your intentions are. If your intentions are good and you don't mean any harm, then don't let what is being said upset you. Maybe what is being said is not necessarily directed at you. Just try to understand where the other person is coming from without looking at the insults and taking everything personally. Somebody has to be the bigger person. It is hard to do, but you won't have any understanding if you are also angry or upset. Most people are not honest when they are angry. Both parties need to try to see things from the other person's perspective. It takes understanding on both sides to create harmony."

I agree

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@Jemail: I’m sure in due time the Angels aboard will be able to participate in more contests and get pre-sale opportunities. The fan club is still new and still in the process of getting things worked out so that we can all have a pleasurable experience. If Trey did comment that his fan club was for die-hard fans it still doesn’t mean you can’t be a fan of another artist. I’m not sure what promo you are referring to but I do believe the primary requirement of the fan club is that you have to be a true supporter of Trey and what he represents. Listen don’t let anyone here, on twitter or anywhere else deter you from wanting to continue to be an Angel. Continue to support Trey the best way you know how. You are most certainly right you can support Trey whether you have an Angel title or not. Chris maybe the main focus but some Angels have gotten mad at other Angels that supported other artists in different competitions too.

I seriously don’t get the impression that Trey is a very judgmental person. If you are truly concerned about the guidelines, mission of the Trey’s Angels fan club perhaps you might want to send them an email asking them. I’m glad he inspired you to want to give back to the community.

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@Shay: I don't like when some of Chris's fans try to belittle Trey's accomplishments either.

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I agee @NUMBA1HUN These comments are not meant for all of Team Breezy or trying to single any out. But SOME of them can really go overboard with the things they say and do. I don't care how much I love Trey that is not gonna make me go in on someone for liking CB or being Team Breezy. I just find it disrespectful when they talk about Trey and what he has/has not accomplished because of what Chris has! They are two different artists who are both successful at what they do. That's my only issue when some members of TB go out of their way to disrespect and belittle Trey and his fans. Not all of then participate in it but that's what I find disappointing in the whole thing. I will still continue to support Trey regardless... These comments are not meant to target anyone. You know who you support then that's it

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There is a difference between these two words. I don't know what Trey and TeamSongz is doing. I am just giving definitions.

Judgment noun:
?the capacity to assess situations or circumstances shrewdly and to draw sound conclusions
?an opinion that you have after thinking carefully about something
?your ability to understand a situation well and make good decisions

Judgmental
Adjective: too willing to criticize other people’s actions and behavior and say that they are wrong.

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I also want to say to you all. You know who you are and what your intentions are. If your intentions are good and you don't mean any harm, then don't let what is being said upset you. Maybe what is being said is not necessarily directed at you. Just try to understand where the other person is coming from without looking at the insults and taking everything personally. Somebody has to be the bigger person. It is hard to do, but you won't have any understanding if you are also angry or upset. Most people are not honest when they are angry. Both parties need to try to see things from the other person's perspective. It takes understanding on both sides to create harmony.

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@Jemail
When you calm down, be still and stop fretting about Twitter and the feelings expressed on this post, you will be laughing and able to understand the following contradiction yourself. #Team Breezy ANGEL and ANGELS that STAN for Breezy. What is that? SMH

I understand that you are venting. But when you calm down, look closely and rationally at the situation. All of us should do that. I don't believe there is any written rule that governs who can and can not be an Angel but there are some unwritten expectations that come along with the Title is all that I can say. All of the artist have their own websites and fan clubs. Anyone is welcome to be a member of TreySongz.com but the Angels is Trey's fan club not Breezy's.

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Didn't know Trey was judgmental to see who's real and who ain't real but if he is then good bye to this fun club. no hard feelings as long as I can see him in concert and buy my CDs that's all that matters to me. I thank him for inspiring me to give back to communities.

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I don't understand why angel team is so judgmental to #teambreezy Angels. I personally give equal support to both of them and did not sign coz of them competitions coz we don't get them in the uk. We don't even get pre-sale tickets smh. If Trey said it's for die hard fans then u should have made it clear before u sign us up. And all these promos on Twitter don't say anything about that all u say is if love Trey come be one of his Angels right? In that case I will not be renewing my membership in feb nxt year when it expires will just stay on the fun club then coz I can still support him without the Angel tittle. Am soo over people getting personal with angels that Stan for Chris. My question is why u get mad at angels that support Chris and don't get mad at those that support others eg Lloyd etc? + whoever participates in teambreezy vs treyangels arguments on Twitter is dumb basing on what y'all be tweeting about.people will say the dumbest things. Whoever advertises that Angel advert should meek it clear from now stating it's for die hard funs .

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@Tiffan700. You sound like a good person. All I can say is that a fan is short for fanatic. Look at what happens at some of these ballgames. You may not know because you are only 22. There is a lot of emotion that goes into being a fan. Yes. It can be that serious depending upon how big a fan you are, and in a competition, some people/fans are known to act real crazy. You have to expect this. Nothing is going to change unless they drug or start killing people. The best you can do is try to avoid the friction and do your thing without getting into the drama. You can also try to understand the other point of view, see if there is something you can do or not, and just let it go. That is not as easy though because it requires having a lot of wisdom.

AshlynBalmyAngel's picture

I agree with @tiffan700, I couldn't have said that any better. And thank you ladies for giving me your opinion.

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@tiffan700: I will agree it is too much focus on this subject. Hopefully it will die down because it causes people to lose focus on what really matters and that is supporting Trey. Like I said it doesn’t matter to me if you support more than one artist. I don’t think there is anything in the guidelines that says that once you sign up to be a Trey’s Angel you have to forsake all other artist you may like. I understand what the other Angels are saying about the wavering Angels though. You do what is best for you. Keep supporting Chris and Trey. They both need all the support they can get. I will not judge you for who you chose to support.

I will have to also agree that some fans do give celebs God like qualities. You truly shouldn’t feel the need to justify why you became an Angel. No one should honestly. As it was stated before Trey and his team know who is REAL and who isn’t.

I’m glad Trey touched you in such a way that it made you want to become an Angel.

CutTiGurl609's picture

Aww Tiffan700 your story almost made me cry.

tiffan700's picture

I sincerely saw how sweet of a person he truely was. I'm not the one for hoping on different celebs just because their hot for the season until all the hype dies down, then its on to the next one. If I'm supporting you, then that shit is real. Trey gained a supporter in me, and I try to be there for both him and Chris, but this stupid feud makes that damn near impossible. Please just let everyone be free to support who they want, without being so judgemental about the whole thing. Its not fair.

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To say someone joined a fan club for the wrong reasons, or to try and justify who's real and who's fake just because they like two artists is completely unfair. I pay attention to this topic up here the most because this is the one argument that wont seem to go away. This is all I see on my tl day after day, and I never say anything because I'm not for the drama. But now I'm feeling offended. Yes. I am team breezy. Yes I am a Trey's Angel. What's so wrong in that?? I keep it 100% percent with anything I have to say, and I have no problem saying that I haven't been a Trey fan probably as long as most of you have. Chris has been in my heart since I was 16 years old. I'm 23 now. There's no way in hell I'm gonna all of a sudden drop him to support someone else just because the fans want me to pick 1 or the other. What I am gonna do is keep supporting them both like I've been doing.

I understand that people love these Celebs, I do too, but their not God. It should not have to be this damn serious. Trey made the fanclub. Not the fans. Its not fair that we be dictated on who should be here, and who shouldn't, just because of your opinions. I didn't join this thing because of what I could get. I don't need this club to help me do anything. I joined because I actually met Trey (on my own) and he was super sweet to me. I told u guys this story before when I first joined. I had asked him if he could personalize my cd for me, but he told me no cause he was in a rush to leave. I turned and walked away, and the next thing I knew, I heard "I still love u though"! I turned around, and he looked me dead in my eyes. He didn't even look away until I did. He almost made me cry that day in front of all those people in that store. That's what brought me here.

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@Shay: I agree it wouldn't make a difference if Trey had a fan club or not he would get my support.

Trey's Locket - Paula's picture

Team Breezy are so rude sometimes, I'm just like whatever.

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