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    October 11, 2011

    This is something I wanted to talk about for a long time but never got a chance. Seeing what people had to say on twitter today just put me over the edge. What is the issue between Trey's Angels and Team Breezy? Why can't people support both? I am both Trey's Angels and Team Breezy. I love both of them as artist and I support them as much as possible. I see on twitter angels saying that other angels shouldn't support Chris and vice versa. Trey wouldn't want his angels fighting with Team Breezy. Can someone explain the problem between these to groups.

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on Oct 11, 2011 - 03:06PM

This is something I wanted to talk about for a long time but never got a chance. Seeing what people had to say on twitter today just put me over the edge. What is the issue between Trey's Angels and Team Breezy? Why can't people support both? I am both Trey's Angels and Team Breezy. I love both of them as artist and I support them as much as possible. I see on twitter angels saying that other angels shouldn't support Chris and vice versa. Trey wouldn't want his angels fighting with Team Breezy. Can someone explain the problem between these to groups.

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tiffan700: You’re welcome. I know we all get to a breaking point where we can’t take certain things anymore. You are correct neither team is perfect, we all have our short comings. It is ridiculous to fight over people that we admire but don’t know personally. It would be nice if both teams could work together in one accord but unfortunately that isn’t always possible. I totally agree that Trey would win more competitions if more fans took an active role. It would be even better if they took more initiative without having to have Trey ask you to do something. It’s obvious that Trey can’t win a competition if only a few of his die-hards fans are voting it takes a collective effort. I know people are sick of me with the 30 under 30 competition but I’m still a bit annoyed that he only won by less than 900 votes. I think true supporters of Trey belong here, because everyone that claims to be a die-hard fan don’t always have the best intentions for why they are here.

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You should be woman enough to stop beating around the bush also.

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You crackme up too talking about somebody twisting things around. Trey and Tyrese are talking about synergy among artists. They did not say anything about fan club members voting during a competition. That still needs clarity. All this talking around an issue is bullshit. If Trey wants to say something about the fan club members he would be man enough to come out an say it. Not some bulllshit.

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@Cuttigurl That is the easy way out. Say that people are twisting your comments around when they are asking you a DIRECT QUESTION. You were the main one talking about Angels voting for other artists and how they tricked you so what I am going to do is assume you are not clear on what you believe yourself. Your comments are not saying anything we did not already say about who the Angels support . They just don't include everything we discussed so they are obscuring the issue and not making things any clearer. If you mean something specifically that is not in agreement with anything I said then come out and say it or don't tell me I am twisting your comments around. It looks more to me like you are twisting something we said around.

I wish there was some input from TEAMSONG or someone higher up in this Fan Club because we need to know what the mission of this fanclub is. If I am wrong about my beliefs than I would gladly concede to the most knowledgeable authority and apologize for wasting everybody's time. I am that big of a person. This is only a discussion of opinions but the truth or a general policy should be written somewhere. Obviously this issue seems to be a big problem.

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I meant to say if he wanted us to align ourselves with another fanclub. And there needs to be a clear mission in this fanclub.

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If he wants us to align ourselves with another fanbase, I could even go along with that. But don't leave us hanging on our own with people trying to make us feel guilty about being loyal. There needs to be a clear mission in this fanbase.

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If Trey doesn't want the Angels to vote for him during a competition, he should tweet that. I would definitely go along with it, but I wouldn't bother renewing my membership in the Angels because I would feel I have been wasting my time and money all these years (since 2005) supporting him for nothing.

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@Guttigurl
Keyword in your comments is EVERYONE. The Angels is not everyone.

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By the way Poppin is my most favored Breezy jam.

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@Cuttigurl
So you think the Angels (his fanclub) should support other artist when Trey is competing with the the other artist for the same spot in a competition. Is that correct? Because that is what we are talking about here. If he is already in competition for the spot, then you don't think his fanbase (supposedlly his most avid and loyal fans) should support him?

NOT ONE of the Angels on here said that you are not supposed to support more than one artist. Each and every one said they don't believe that. So I am not sure what you are making a point about.

Trey and Tyrese are right. Artists should work together and fans should get along better. But who is to support the Artist with the most fervor if it is not his own fanclub. The fanclub is not his whole fanbase. Remember--You don't have to become a fan club member to support any Artist. Most of Trey's fans are not Angels.

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Sometimes you can't even be honest with yourself because things can be hidden in your subconscious so that the only way they might come to the surface is somebody like a friend that knows you very well hears you talking about something constantly and they point out something to you, and then you have a realization about what is going on. When that realization hits you, the problem goes away. That is what I some psychotherapy is about. It is very interesting.

This is getting out of my realm of expertise, but I know a little from study and training.

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@Ashlyn
They shouldn't. The reason for it is because it is pushing a button because of something that happened in the past. A lot of behavior of people is not based upon what is actually happening in the present time. They are reacting to past hurts. That is why I mentioned that you have to be still sometimes and stop fretting and venting and try to see things rationally. Only then can you make a good judgment. Like @JIMS mentioned to me before when I went off on somebody on the board---You have to take a step back and calm down. Sometimes you press a person's button so bad they already know this but they can't stop themselves. It's all psychological. That why sometimes when people are acting irrational, you have to look at it as if it is really not about you. It is something they are going through. The more you understand about human nature and the way people behave including yourself then it is easier not to hate. But you have to be very honest with yourself.

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I understand how some might feel upset if they see another angel voting for someone else during a competition. What I don't understand is why some angels seem do get mad at others for other artists during none competition time. It seems like some angels only want you to like and support only Trey.

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What I am talking about are just general laws that apply to everybody not just Breezy fans. I don't want to sound one-sided. You all probably think I am just bullshitting. If you don't believe me, study your bible or ask your minister, or mentor. The bible says to love your enemy. How do you think you will be able to do that? It does not happen out of the clear blue sky.

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@Epiphany You are welcome to follow me but don't be disappointed.

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@EpiphanyAngel You have it. I am less than barely there though. I am mostly on the board as far as Trey is concerned.

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who you like is who u like wether its both or none. i like both..... but im a much bigger trey fan!YUPPPPP!

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@LEAH
I wish I could get on some of these TEAMS that people pay big money to see. I would be balling like Trey. Unfortunately this is a competitive world either, and I understand what Trey was trying to achieve all of these years in competing for a place in this game while all of his peers were way ahead of him. The music industry is a business that you might not understand anything about, but it is a LOT more than all about the music. Maybe I am such a loyal fan because I have read many books and magazines about the music industry and I have a feeling how things work and how the industry is evolving. That is why I don't take fandom lightly

True. Being part of a fan club is not to create drama. Drama is what happens. People are human and fans are known to be overzealous. It has always been that way since the beginning of time. We as fans have to learn how to deal with it so that we are not affected so much.

Hate will get you nowhere. It is counterproductive, but everybody does it at one time or another for one reason or another. Our goal should be to love. But to love someone, you have to learn about yourself and how you affect the other person and you have to try to understand them. You really can't do this by being judgmental and pointing the finger. It is not easy, but once you understand the other person and yourself, you become less hateful , resentful or upset. I learned this , but don't always practice it myself because it is not easy to do all the time.

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@ NUMBA1HON What's your Twitter name?

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i think sometimes people make the being on "teams" issue too big of a deal... i'm part of trey's angels and i love chris brown too... good music is good music and isn't that what its all about? being a part of a fan club isn't to create unnecessary drama between fans... its to support the artist to continue making the music that you fell in love with. the negativity and hate between people is not accomplishing anything... in trey's own words, "Hate will get you nowhere!" that is all =)
oh n @TIFFAN700 i totally agree with everything you commented on =)

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If I offended you by agreeing with any comments, that was not my intention to offend anyone. I agree with the POSITIVE emotion of being a true loyal fan. The other stuff I recognized to be just comments made in frustration that really don’t necessarily apply to anyone. You can’t fault die hard Angels for wanting all Angels to be loyal especially when wearing the Title. They know which team they are on. It would not be a real fan club if that spirit did not exist. We might as well disband or all go over and vote for Breezy.

You can always support an artist whether you are in a fan club or not. Almost everything concerning Trey is on TreySongz.com for the general membership. I am not saying this to convince anybody to get out of the fan club. I am just pointing out the facts. It is up to each TeamBreezy Angel or a TeamBreezy Stan to determine if they can handle being a member and what may come along with it if they are because of their allegiance. If you all don’t understand this yet, we are going to have to ask JoJo Brim or somebody else for some help because this is getting out of my realm of expertise. And I hope Breezy fans don’t take this the wrong way because I am not telling any fans to get out of the club. Who the hell am I to do that?

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@Tiffan700 You are still venting emotionally and it is obscuring the issue. If you truly understood, the hurt would go away. That is how I know what is going on. I am sorry for everything that upset you because I think you are a good person. I agree Fans should be able to come together most of the time, but when there is COMPETITION, only one can win. That is when you become an opponent of the Angels. I am not judging. I am making an observation. As I said, you seem to be a good person and you don’t seem to be the type of person that would intentionally do something to hurt or insult the Angels or Trey. But you have to accept some responsibility in this if you want to belong to the fan club of both artists. I am not saying you should not support both artists and that you do not deserve to be an Angel, and I am not saying you should be attacked. All of the Angels are not attacking other Angels and all don’t agree with it. I am saying that if you are an Angel voting for Breezy then you have to recognize what that means and accept some of the consequences when things get heated, try to understand it and then let this go. Look at it as Angels going through changes because they are trying to achieve a goal and you are not helping them achieve it when it is critical for them to win. If you take some responsibility, then I say you are wearing your big gurl panties. If you don’t, you are acting like a victim and I have no sympathy.

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@cuttigurl609 gurl he really was super sweet

@Jesusismysavior Thanks gurl. I wasn't gonna try and justify at first, but I couldn't stay quiet any more. Neither one of our teams are perfect, and I talk to team breezy all the time about how all this stupid fighting shit is ridiculous. I know a lot of team breezy can go overboard, i'm not biased by any means, at all. If you're wrong, you're wrong. I feel like we should be able to come together and support each other, TOGETHER. Trey would win a lot more with more support, then just a few fans that believe that their die hard so only their supposed to be here. If team breezy and the "believers" can come together and support...(as annoying as hell as they can be) why can't we? You can win more than with less.

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@NUMBA1HON Thank you for saying that. And I honestly do understand the emotion that goes into being a fan trust me. With all the shit that we've been through with Chris for the past 3 years, how can I not? But that's just it. A lot of Angels joined the Team Breezy train also. How would you guys feel if I went around saying to everyone, you don't deserve to be here? Where were you guys three years ago when we needed you? Hell, where were you a year ago when we needed you? When Chris was on his say now begging for any support that he could get from his fans, if he had any left at all. A lot of people that claim to be apart of team breezy were not there. I was there through it all. I consider myself a true fan of his. I would never go around telling everybody since you weren't here from the beginning then don't call yourself #Team Breezy, you're a fake fan, you're a fake fan, blah, blah, blah. I could easily pull the you're hopping on because he's hot again card. But I don't do that, because i'm genuinely happy and grateful for the support that he is receiving now, and any little bit helps. All he wants is for people to love him. I would think that that would be the same situation for Trey, and that his fans would be grateful that he's gaining more support. But apparently i'm wrong.

However, I do understand the other point of views, I just can't agree with them. I'm sorry, but I have to be honest.. That moment that he shared with me, is a moment that he gave to me, and only he can take it away from me. He didn't ask me if I was a die hard fan before he told me he loved me. He genuinely appreciated my support in showing up to get my cd signed by him. That meant a lot to me. That's gonna stay with me forever, and i'm sorry but there's no way i'm gonna let anyone tell me that i'm not worthy of being here. If he has a problem with me supporting both artists, then he'll have to tell me that himself. Honestly, I don't believe he's truly that way.

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@Jemail I am glad.

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Ok I now understand. @Numba1Hon thaks

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I meant no where to put them.

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@JEMAIL
TreySongz.com in not a fan club. Treys website is TreySongz.com and all fans can become a member free of charge.
Trey's Angels is separate and it is the FanClub. AWH is only part of the Trey's Angels fan club The video you saw about AWH is when Trey decided he was receiving a large number of gifts and he had no way to put them. So he got the idea to start a foundation to help people in need. The foundation is AWH which is a part of Trey's Angels fan club. It is not the main purpose for Trey's Angels. The main purpose is to support Trey in all his endeavors. AWH being one of them.

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Trey states why he created the Angels fan club below. I put the definitions there for clarity. Maybe this will help some fans understand.

http://www.treysongz.com/video/welcome-to-treys-angels/

KEY WORD: created for his most dedicated and LOYAL fans

LOYALTY
? the quality of being loyal
? feelings of allegiance
? the act of binding yourself (intellectually or emotionally) to a course of action

LOYAL
1. steadfast in allegiance or duty;
2. unwavering in devotion to friend or vow or cause;
- Example: "loyal supporters"

ALLEGIANCE
?noun: strong loyalty to a person, group, idea, or country

LOYAL adjective
? firm and not changing in your friendship with or support for a person or an
organization, or in your belief in your principles
Opposite: disloyal

DISLOYAL
Definition
not loyal; not supporting someone that you should support

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@Numba1hun I do understand what u mean but always thought TreySongz.com was the fan club and TreysAngels is for dedicated funs and mainly for AWHM. Was on the fun club for a year before becoming an Angel but only signed up to the Angel club after watching Trey's video clip talking about TreysAngels. I remember him saying that it is for all dedicated funs and who want to be part of the AWHMissions. So I believed that was the main purpose for treysAngels.

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