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Spiritual Implications of Trey's Tattoos

  • Hello all!

    I have been doing some research, and I have been wondering about the spiritual implications of Trey Songz tattoos in light of when he has received him. In earlier years, his tattoos have been geared more toward God (the 'only God can judge me' tat, the sunshine after the storm tat, the poem, and the women in his fam tat). However, the two 'female angel' tattoos on his back and the broken angel wing tattoos seem show a possible shift in belief. In interviews, he has stated that the female angels represent protection. However, this alarmed when I found out that there were know female angels in the Bible except two female angelic beings listed in Zechariah 5:5-11. These female angelic beings were the guardians of a woman called 'Wickedness' and were building a house for her at the site of the original tower of Babel. This lady called wickedness then reappears in Revelation 17 as the Harlot who is riding the Beast (for those who understand biblical prophecy and Endtimes; for those who do not, I apologize. Ask Qs and I can try to get you up to speed lol).

    Another thing that alarmed me was the broken angel wings. These he never gave an explanation for in any interview. Broken angel wings usually represent 'fallen angels', meaning those who have rebelled against God. They're wings are broken because they are fallen. The chief fallen angel is Lucifer a.k.a Satan:

    How you are fallen from heaven,
    O Lucifer,[a] son of the morning!
    How you are cut down to the ground,
    You who weakened the nations!...
    (Isaiah 14:11)

    There are a lot of people getting into Lucifer worship now, thinking that he was wronged and God is the culprit. These are those who believe that they are enlightened or New Age. I am just curious... What do you all think? Is it too far fetched? I never heard Trey really state if he believes in Jesus, so I'm looking forward to you all sounding off and stating what you all think the tattoos may mean ;)

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on February 2, 2012 - 3:07pm
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Hello all!

I have been doing some research, and I have been wondering about the spiritual implications of Trey Songz tattoos in light of when he has received him. In earlier years, his tattoos have been geared more toward God (the 'only God can judge me' tat, the sunshine after the storm tat, the poem, and the women in his fam tat). However, the two 'female angel' tattoos on his back and the broken angel wing tattoos seem show a possible shift in belief. In interviews, he has stated that the female angels represent protection. However, this alarmed when I found out that there were know female angels in the Bible except two female angelic beings listed in Zechariah 5:5-11. These female angelic beings were the guardians of a woman called 'Wickedness' and were building a house for her at the site of the original tower of Babel. This lady called wickedness then reappears in Revelation 17 as the Harlot who is riding the Beast (for those who understand biblical prophecy and Endtimes; for those who do not, I apologize. Ask Qs and I can try to get you up to speed lol).

Another thing that alarmed me was the broken angel wings. These he never gave an explanation for in any interview. Broken angel wings usually represent 'fallen angels', meaning those who have rebelled against God. They're wings are broken because they are fallen. The chief fallen angel is Lucifer a.k.a Satan:

How you are fallen from heaven,
O Lucifer,[a] son of the morning!
How you are cut down to the ground,
You who weakened the nations!...
(Isaiah 14:11)

There are a lot of people getting into Lucifer worship now, thinking that he was wronged and God is the culprit. These are those who believe that they are enlightened or New Age. I am just curious... What do you all think? Is it too far fetched? I never heard Trey really state if he believes in Jesus, so I'm looking forward to you all sounding off and stating what you all think the tattoos may mean ;)

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@Uriel: I’m well aware that it will always be up to Trey to make the right choices for himself. Even with knowing that it will not prevent me from keeping the brother in my prayers. :) I also know that God is the only one that knows what’s best for Trey. Not Trey, nor I or anyone else knows that.

I stated what I stated because in order to really allow God to work through you there are certain worldly things you have to give up or be willing to give up. Listening to Trey’s interviews and his lyrics gives me the impression he just may have not done that yet. I never stated nor have I tried to give the impression that he doesn’t have a personal relationship with God. I truly believe he does. I wouldn’t be as big of a fan of his if I didn’t believe he did. If I judged Trey on how well of a Christian he was I wouldn’t listen to any of his music. I’m not perfect in my walk with the Lord and I don’t expect others to be. I respect anyone that has a personal relationship. I personally love the songs Lap Dance and Inside. I know God is giving me a side eye for that but I do. LOL

You are correct many of us aren’t called to do grand things in life, but there are many of us that are meant to do something grand. Many times God places us in a position where we are suppose to bring the masses closer to him. I could be wrong but I wouldn’t be surprised if God is calling or will call Trey to do just that. For me personally I’m content with whatever God wants me to do in life.

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Numba1Hon (con't) ~ The truth is the majority of mankind simply just doesn't really truly believe in God. Most people depend solely on themselves for everything, and this is why life is so much more colder and harder for those individuals. This is the sad truth/reality...most people prefer hate, cruelty, perversion, abuse, and brutality over love, truth, tenderness, empathy, and compassion. The latter makes these individuals sick with disgust because they hate love so much. Love is like a bitter poison to their very souls.

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Jesusismysavior (con't) ~ You would be disgusted by the display. It would make you lose all your faith in humanity. So when God does get a glimpse of goodness within and individual, He celebrates. His faith in mankind is then restored just from th at one person's goodness.

Numba1Hon ~ Lucifer is the tempter of ALL men, but he is especially the physical seducer of women and women (Lucifer uses them all of the time) are the physical seducers of men. This is what caused the infamous fall in the Garden of Eden. Eve was seduced by Lucifer. Adam was seduced by Eve (not Lucifer). Lucifer convinced Eve that God was holding out on her. She fell for his manipulation. Eve then truly believed that she was missing out on God's best for her just because God didn't want her to eat off of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. Adam and Eve had no experiential knowledge of evil like we (human beings) do now. They only had cognitive knowledge about evil. After the fall, Adam and Eve received both (and so did the rest of humanity). Eve didn't see or realize that she already had God's best. She was living in paradise (naked and unashamed). Eve realized this when it was too late (when her and Adam were expelled from the garden).

The moral of the story is don't realize when it is too late that you have a good thing. Most people don't recognize it until it's gone. If you know you have something or someone good, you should appreciate it/them. Never take it/them for granted. Love and nurture it/them. Always keep in the back of your mind how good it is whenever Lucifer tries to come in an tempt you to go astray. Ask yourself is it really worth losing your "paradise"?

Good things do not have to come to an end. You will have challenges, obstacles, trials, and tribulations, but those tests are supposed to draw you closer to the Divine. The problem is mankind is weak, and we give up way too easily.

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Jesusismysavior ~ You can pray for Trey all night and day every single day for the rest of your life, but in the end Trey has to make the right choices for himself by himself (whatever those may be). Only God and Trey know what is right for him, and God doesn't condemn us but he does convict us. To convict is to prove or find guilty.

"I do agree that if Trey really allows God to enter his life he will be a force to be reckoned with."

^^ How do you know if Trey hasn't allowed God into his life already? You don't know what his relationship is with the Divine. Just because he makes songs like Lap Dance and Inside that doesn't mean he doesn't have a personal relationship with God. Being "good" doesn't mean being "perfect". It mean when it gets down to it you will chose to do what is right when tested. Doing what is right isn't always the easy or "popular" thing to do. Nobody know the kind of person they truly are until opposition/adversity comes in an life tests you.

So many people believe God call us to fulfill these grandiose purposes that our individual purposes in life are these great things. This just isn't true. Sometimes God calls us just to be a good neighbor, a good friend, a good brother or sister, a good husband or wife, or a good mother or father to your children. Honestly, that is enough for me BUT...the simplicity of this truth isn't enough for so many individuals to accept because people always want to do something HUGE so they themselves can be glorified and idolized.

Do you want to see people unravel and expose their true natures? Put an opportunity for wealth, fame, power, and "celebrity" out on the table. The ugliness within people (envy, jealousy, viciousness, cruelty, and vindictiveness) comes out. People will rob, enslave, murder, and completely lose their minds over power, fame, wealth, and a chance to be a "celebrity" and/or political figure (or an even bigger celebrity and/or political figure).

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Humbleheart ~ I personally like Trey Songz singing about sex, partying, life, and relationships. In Top Of The World, he showcased a more socially conscious side of himself. I wouldn't want to hear an entire album of that material coming from him. It would be the same as having a conversation with Tremaine Neverson the man behind Trey Songz and the only thing he is talking to you about is sex. This would make him very boring and one dimensional. We are all multi-dimensional beings. We like and are interested in a multitude of different things. That is how God created us. Trust me...I bet Lauryn Hill listens to and loves Bottomz Up, Say Ahh, or Neighbor's Know My Name. Just because she is labeled as a "socially conscious rapper/singer" That doesn't mean she can't like or create a party/dance record. Lauryn Hill is more that just a conscious rapper/singer, and Trey Songz is more than just some sex symbol. Diversity is a beautiful thing.

Angels are asexual. They do not belong to either gender because they are spirit. Spirit is masculine and feminine energy combined. This is hard for mankind to understand because we live in a world of polarities (love/hate, black/white, man/woman, good/bad etc...). When they enter this earthly/material realm, they chose a gender so that you (human beings) will be able to identify with them and not be frightened by them.

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"@JIMS, very well spoken and sooo true!" I love that God does not condemn us, but continues to work on us like gold refined in the fire. Being in the fire definitely hurts when God is stripping you of past sins. And no we don't get it right all time, and some times we do have to stay in the fire longer. Trust me, I know lol! But once, we come out of those situations and trials shining so much brighter than we ever imagined, it's all worth it :) I love that God is patient with us as He removes these things and our lives, and sometimes we do have to be more patient with ourselves. This is all a part of growth." "

I agree :)

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" You know sadly many devote Christians do have weak moments where we commit adultery, fornicate and have issues with jealousy. We sin daily. The beautiful thing is we can forgive ourselves for what negative things we do and work on being a better Christian. Besides us forgiving ourselves for our wrongdoing God forgives us."

@JIMS, very well spoken and sooo true! I love that God does not condemn us, but continues to work on us like gold refined in the fire. Being in the fire definitely hurts when God is stripping you of past sins. And no we don't get it right all time, and some times we do have to stay in the fire longer. Trust me, I know lol! But once, we come out of those situations and trials shining so much brighter than we ever imagined, it's all worth it :) I love that God is patient with us as He removes these things and our lives, and sometimes we do have to be more patient with ourselves. This is all a part of growth.

@Numba1hon, thanks for the clarification concerning the tattoos! You made some very valid points about why they would have that meaning, I do apologize to him if I was completely off base ( Sorry Trey!) :) About the consciousness in his music, I think its sad that we as a ppl aren't willing to listen to more thought provoking music and music that will build us up and encourage us. I absolutely loved the Miseducation of Lauren Hill and see that album as a classic! As do many other ppl. I think it can be pulled off and ppl will be willing to listen, but you basically have to be independent to bring forth positive music with a message. A lot of these big record labels don't want to market artists who want to do that because they have their own agendas. It is evident however, that he is an intelligent individual with a poetic, conscious side, so it would be nice to see more of that side of him. I think it would bring shock value since a lot of ppl view him more as a sex symbol instead of someone who has something to say.

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“(Cont’d.) One thing I truly believe and we all must remember is that the devil’s way leads to death and destruction. The Devil can not make anyone do wrong, but he is an expert at making things so enticing that one becomes mesmerized and will consent to do his bidding. The tragedy is that sooner or later torment, pain and great suffering will come. We (the fans) need to pray not only for Trey---we need to pray for ourselves too because we are the ones who are listening to his music and encouraging him directly or indirectly. All we can do now is warn him LOVINGLY to be careful with his life and the people in it (personal and businesswise) and we should continue to pray for him while we support him. This is not the time to put him down (judge) or leave him.

Trey is a great artist and a basically good human being and when God is finished with him we will see all the greatness he is destined to achieve. This is what I hope and pray for him.”

I try my best to keep everyone in pray myself included. Though I love Trey’s music there are subjects he raps and sings about that aren’t to my liking. Usually I skip those songs. Because you truly do have to be careful what you feed your mind. I agree this isn’t the time to turn our backs on him.

Trey is a great artist and I agree he tries his best to be a good person. I do agree that if Trey really allows God to enter his life he will be a force to be reckoned with.

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@Numba1Hon:

“Trey did state what the broken wings symbolize. He said that they symbolize wings that were damaged during the struggle that his Angels endured while protecting him. These are not his exact words but they are the essence of them.”

Thanks for bringing this up I thought it might have been something like that.

“I believe Trey is a work in progress like many of us who are also sinning. I don’t think he is practicing any dark arts. He is in an industry where the almighty dollar reigns, and sex, drugs, immorality and profanity sell because much of this is what many people want to see and hear.”

I don’t think that the above subjects are what most people want to hear or see but have become accustomed to hearing and seeing it.

“He says he would like to be more conscious like Marvin Gaye but the radio is not going to play that song. Thankfully he still appears to be a Christian. He still prays and is very much involved in philanthropic work and inspiring others to do the same. His lyrics indicate he knows he falls short. There are even some warnings in his songs. He knows everything is not right because he said he was not thinking about what is right or wrong when he did the mixtapes. That is an indication in itself. As quiet as it’s kept, HIS FANS ARE NOT INNOCENT in this including me. We encourage some of this in him and vice versa. Maybe the tapes were cathartic for him and he is getting everything out of his system for some reason.”

It’s sad that we live a day where being socially conscience is looked down upon. I think Trey would a great person to pass along positive messages about social issues. I will agree that some of his fans do play a role in it. Some of us do encourage the over the top sexual antics, the vulgarity and etc. I think his music as a whole is very cathartic for him.

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(Cont’d.) One thing I truly believe and we all must remember is that the devil’s way leads to death and destruction. The Devil can not make anyone do wrong, but he is an expert at making things so enticing that one becomes mesmerized and will consent to do his bidding. The tragedy is that sooner or later torment, pain and great suffering will come. We (the fans) need to pray not only for Trey---we need to pray for ourselves too because we are the ones who are listening to his music and encouraging him directly or indirectly. All we can do now is warn him LOVINGLY to be careful with his life and the people in it (personal and businesswise) and we should continue to pray for him while we support him. This is not the time to put him down (judge) or leave him.

Trey is a great artist and a basically good human being and when God is finished with him we will see all the greatness he is destined to achieve. This is what I hope and pray for him.

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@Humbleheart
Trey did state what the broken wings symbolize. He said that they symbolize wings that were damaged during the struggle that his Angels endured while protecting him. These are not his exact words but they are the essence of them. The Angels include the women in his life who struggled to raise and support him such as his mother, aunts, and grandmothers---then I believe this includes his fans (predominantly female) that have stood by him and helped in his struggle to make it. Most people think of Angels as females wearing long white robes, having large wings and halos doing good deeds and guiding others. Knowing his background he would only think of Angels as feminine.

I believe Trey is a work in progress like many of us who are also sinning. I don’t think he is practicing any dark arts. He is in an industry where the almighty dollar reigns, and sex, drugs, immorality and profanity sell because much of this is what many people want to see and hear. He says he would like to be more conscious like Marvin Gaye but the radio is not going to play that song. Thankfully he still appears to be a Christian. He still prays and is very much involved in philanthropic work and inspiring others to do the same. His lyrics indicate he knows he falls short. There are even some warnings in his songs. He knows everything is not right because he said he was not thinking about what is right or wrong when he did the mixtapes. That is an indication in itself. As quiet as it’s kept, HIS FANS ARE NOT INNOCENT in this including me. We encourage some of this in him and vice versa. Maybe the tapes were cathartic for him and he is getting everything out of his system for some reason.

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@humbleheart: You know sadly many devote Christians do have weak moments where we commit adultery, fornicate and have issues with jealousy. We sin daily. The beautiful thing is we can forgive ourselves for what negative things we do and work on being a better Christian. Besides us forgiving ourselves for our wrongdoing God forgives us.

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@humbleheart:

Oh I’m truly happy for Montell. I’ll take a look at the interviews a little later.
Prayer definitely changes things. We are living in a time where it is most important to do so.

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I do recall hearing he was a praying man. I also remember hearing his mom say he was always a person that sought God's (hopefully the Christian God) guidance.

Perhaps this topic was brought up because Trey may experience some challenges that will require his fans to continue keep him lifted in prayer. Being in the entertainment business is no joke, it's especially hard for those that are Christians. It's a consistent battle between serving God and man.

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@ Hey Ms. CutTiGurl609: Trey is a personable guy and I'm sure if anyone of us got the opportunity to ask about the broken wing he would answer to the best of his ability.

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I would also like to say that Trey Songz is very BLESSED to have ppl like you in his life (knowingly and unknowingly) who are willing to pray God's best for him :) There are actually a lot of Christians out there unwilling to pray for celebrities, so the fact that you all are merciful enough to bring all ppl (rich and poor, educated and uneducated, etc.) before God in prayer for His will in their lives says a lot. There are ppl in Hollywood who have a voice that God wants to use for His glory and this will come when the saints are willing to share the gospel with them. So may the Lord bless you all for your faithfulness :)

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@ cuttigurl609, you asked a very good question: Even if someone acknowlege Jesus Christ, does it mean that they follow him or make an effort to?

The answer to that according to Jesus is that there are some ppl who will call Him their Lord but not follow Him:

“But why do you call Me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and not do the things which I say?...(Luke 6:46)

“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’ (Matt 7:21-23)

Jesus said that that we would know if ppl were truly following Him by the fruit in their lives(Matt 7:15-17). All the fruit of the Spirit are love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, gentleness, faithfulness, and self-control (Galations 5:22-23). These things reveal if someone who confesses Jesus is truly following Him. Also note that in Galations 5:19-21 it lists the fruit of someone's life who is not following Christ: adultery, fornication, uncleaness, lewdness, idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, envy, murders, drunkeness, and revelries.

I would like to stress the point that we are not all perfect and we may be lacking some of the fruit of Spirit and still have some fruit of the flesh, but when God reveals these things to us and we surrender them to Him, He is ready and willing to transform us. Salvation is definitely a process, and we 'grow' from glory to glory in Him lol. :)

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@JIMS I am in complete agreement with Proverbs 22:6. I believe if this foundation is laid, a lot ppl who turn away from God for a period of time ultimately do come back to serve Him. A perfect example of this is Montell Jordan. He is now fully serving Christ and leading worship at his church. link here to his transformation if you want to check it out; really great interviews:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj6Hi5l7a1g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdawBT-g8Cg&feature=related

This is also why I believe God has intercessors. God doesn't show us things to hate on ppl because He does not hate ppl. He reveals and shows things, so that we may PRAY. I believe God had me post this, so that those He has called to watch and pray can do that--watch and pray. He wants to see as many ppl as possible come into His kingdom. And He doesn't want any of His saints (especially those He has called to intercede) without knowledge in the last of the last days. He wants our prayers geared to pull down strongholds, cast out demons, and disarm principalities and powers. This requires knowledge so that we know what to pray for.

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JIMS: "I will agree Trey is one of the few that gets tattoos that have meaning. I truly believe we are the wrong people to ask about his tattoos. All we can do is make assumptions about what the meaning is about the broken wings. You would have to ask Trey himself, because he is the only one that truly knows."

I agree the person that we need to ask is Trey. He always says all you have to do is ask him.

I haven't really given much thought to the meaning of his tattoos but I have thought about whether he believes in Christ or not. I heard things about this Illuminati crap and that they will reference "God" but that doesn't mean they believe in the same biblical God that we refer to. This made me curious, but I do remember Trey saying a prayer either on his show My Moment or somewhere and referencing Jesus Christ. I'm sorry I don't remember exactly what I heard the prayer on but I do recall that prayer being the reason I dismissed the illuminati rumors.

My question: Even if someone acknowlege Jesus Christ, does it mean that they follow him or make an effort to?

I don't think so and there is no way of knowing this even if the person tells us that they do. The devil is very deceitful and can pose as some one who follows Christ. As far as this discussion goes I feel like all we can do is pray and hope that this man does follow Christ, and if not, maybe by seeing how Christ keeps us positive, it will encourage him or anybody else to follow Christ themselves.

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Proverbs 22:6

Train a child in the way he should go, and when he is old he will not turn from it.

The above scripture says a lot. I believe the foundation was laid for Trey to be a Christian. This is why he probably got tattoos that are spiritual in nature. He knows were all his gifts come from. He knows that without God none of the things he has would be possible. I just pray for Trey’s sake that he has confessed that Jesus Christ is his Lord and Savior.

It truly makes me happy knowing that I serve a God that is forgiving and most of all loving.

I will agree Trey is one of the few that gets tattoos that have meaning. I truly believe we are the wrong people to ask about his tattoos. All we can do is make assumptions about what the meaning is about the broken wings. You would have to ask Trey himself, because he is the only one that truly knows.

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"Q#4: Is posting this being judgmental? 100% not. To pass judgment means to hold someone accountable, to give a verdict concerning someone's sin. I cannot pass a verdict on Trey Songz because I do not have that type of authority. I didn't doom him to heaven or hell. That job belongs only to Christ, Holy Spirit, and the disciples Christ gives that authority to at the End of the Age (Mathew 19:28). I think a lot of ppl say that not knowing what being "judgmental" truly means. I will say this though, I will not stop telling the truth as God reveals it to me. Even if it is unpopular or angers some people. I am held account to God if I do not share the truth with others. Being that He is the only one I have to answer to, I am going to listen to Him when He tells me to speak lol. That is all.

Also know, that it is only the 'truth' that sets people free (John 8:32). The truth can only be found in His Word. I want you all to know that I am not offering my opinion, but I have answered these questions using only the truth of His Word.
First, I would like to say great comments from all of you. I posted this discussion because I wanted open forum and wanted to hear what everyone thought--is it plausible or is it not? I would like to address of few questions that you all posed, which I think are very thought provoking."

God truly is the ultimate judge. However, we as humans do have a tendency to do it ourselves. Sometimes we do get into a place where we make assessments about people and things that may or may not be true. I think many people look at the dictionary definition of the words judgmental and judgment. If God is truly speaking to you and telling you share this with us please continue.

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"Q#3: Is it possible that broken wings mean all fall short of the glory of God? I like the possibility of that explanation and Trey may have meant that. However, people are not angels. We are created in the image of God and they are not. We have obtained salvation through Christ and they have not. It is important to note that fallen angels cannot be forgiven! The Lord specifically said that He created/reserved hell for the devil and his angels (see Mathew 25:41). They can never turn back to Christ, so to say that broken angel wings represents a fallen man and man's imperfection is a fallacy (whether this is the meaning or not). Broken wings, continuing from the two angelic beings, represent broken/fallen angels (i.e. like the women with stork wings in zechariah). In terms of the believer, the Lord said we would 'mount up on wings like eagles' (Isaiah 40:31). These wings are NOT broken. These wings represent deliverance and freedom. Yes we stuggle, but as the storm tattoo on his arm shows, we always rise out of the ashes :)"

A few years ago Trey did a magazine interview were he mentioned his back tattoos. Perhaps you may have seen it too. Well he stated that the Angels on his back are praying and fighting his battles. He did reference the broken wings but didn’t go into why they were broken. Could the wings have gotten broken because the Angels were fighting Trey’s battles? It’s possible. You are well versed in the bible and have scripture to back up any point that you are trying to make and I think that is great. All I can truly say is I don’t know about anyone’s personal relationship with God. All I know is about my own. As a Christian I would love to see others have a better walk with God. And in time many will.

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First, I would like to say great comments from all of you. I posted this discussion because I wanted open forum and wanted to hear what everyone thought--is it plausible or is it not? I would like to address of few questions that you all posed, which I think are very thought provoking.

Is Trey a Christian? : We know that Trey may have grown up in a Christian home and this may have laid the foundation for some of his beliefs. I think it is important for us to understand that just because you grew up in a Christian home and attend church every Sunday, this doesn't make you a follower of Christ. E.g: If I stand in a parking lot all day, this doesn't make me a car. All believers in Christ must confess Him as Lord and Savior. As Jesus said "You must be born again" (John 3:3; 5-8). We cannot get to heaven or Grandma or mama's salvation. We must confess Him with our mouths and believe in our hearts for ourselves (Romans 10:9-10). So the question I pose is, has Trey confessed Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior? And I agree, yes we do need to keep the brother in prayer lol! I believe this is why the Lord has believers here on his site :)

Q #2: Did Trey have understanding concerning his tattoos? I don't believe Trey Songz got these tattoos without thinking about their meaning. I say this because of the poetic nature and deep meaning behind the tattoo on his chest for his family and his other tattoos. He doesn't get tattoos frivolously like some, so I don't believe that I'm reaching by questioning the meaning. The question I pose is, what exactly is the meaning of the broken wings?

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Q#4: Is posting this being judgmental? 100% not. To pass judgment means to hold someone accountable, to give a verdict concerning someone's sin. I cannot pass a verdict on Trey Songz because I do not have that type of authority. I didn't doom him to heaven or hell. That job belongs only to Christ, Holy Spirit, and the disciples Christ gives that authority to at the End of the Age (Mathew 19:28). I think a lot of ppl say that not knowing what being "judgmental" truly means. I will say this though, I will not stop telling the truth as God reveals it to me. Even if it is unpopular or angers some people. I am held account to God if I do not share the truth with others. Being that He is the only one I have to answer to, I am going to listen to Him when He tells me to speak lol. That is all.

Also know, that it is only the 'truth' that sets people free (John 8:32). The truth can only be found in His Word. I want you all to know that I am not offering my opinion, but I have answered these questions using only the truth of His Word.

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Q#3: Is it possible that broken wings mean all fall short of the glory of God? I like the possibility of that explanation and Trey may have meant that. However, people are not angels. We are created in the image of God and they are not. We have obtained salvation through Christ and they have not. It is important to note that fallen angels cannot be forgiven! The Lord specifically said that He created/reserved hell for the devil and his angels (see Mathew 25:41). They can never turn back to Christ, so to say that broken angel wings represents a fallen man and man's imperfection is a fallacy (whether this is the meaning or not). Broken wings, continuing from the two angelic beings, represent broken/fallen angels (i.e. like the women with stork wings in zechariah). In terms of the believer, the Lord said we would 'mount up on wings like eagles' (Isaiah 40:31). These wings are NOT broken. These wings represent deliverance and freedom. Yes we stuggle, but as the storm tattoo on his arm shows, we always rise out of the ashes :)

songzbabygirl211's picture

I think maybe the broken wings represent hard times, where his faith may have been shaken for one reason or another. Or as some people sometimes don't put to much thought into their tattoos. Maybe Trey felt the broken wings would give the tattoo a more dramatic effect. Just a thought. : )

JesusIsMySavior's picture

@TreysNewestAngel1 Sometimes as humans we do have a tendency to over think situations. Somethings aren't as complex as they appear. It is true that many people get tattoos and no true thought was taken into why they get them.

TreysNewestAngel1's picture

I believe that there are so many people in the world who are quick to judge and make assumptions. I also believe that alot of people get tattoos and not really "Understand" what they actually mean. Not saying that Trey didn't understand but you never know. As Trey's Angels and Fans we should look at him as someone whom we enjoy listening to and supporting, because at the end of the day, "Trey" and everybody else in this world will to have to answer to all that we have said, done, or thought and that's including those tattoos. Love Trey for who he is, as we should everyone, and stop looking so much into stuff!

TreysQuietAngel's picture

Ya know, I agree with JIMS... I believe that his fallen angels tat represents that we all fall short of the glory of God. No one is perfect n this word. There are a LOT of celebs who are said to be part of the Illuminati... Trey being one of them... but who am I to say that this is true? All I can do is the same as JIMS stated... pray.

JesusIsMySavior's picture

I have a question do you get a feeling he isn't a believer in Jesus? From my understanding he was brought up in a Christian household. I believe he is a believer in Christ. Perhaps the bible focused on two female angels but it doesn't mean there wasn't many more. Many people believe that angels come in female and male form. I take his fallen angels tattoo as a statement to say we all fall short of the glory of God. It's a daily struggle to please God. I know for sure it's struggle for Trey. What I like about Trey is his honesty about his daily struggles. He knows he does things that aren't pleasing to God.

I know there are rumors about Trey being apart of the Illuminati. How true that is? I don't know. All I can do is to keep the brother in pray.

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