I can honestly say that I have always been extremely proud of Trey Songz but yesterday he truly and deeply hurt me.
He took a DM that someone sent to him about how upset they were about not getting acknowledged after the poster they made for him, and he tweeted it out and included "#Entitlement" to that tweet. I did not send him that DM...I repeat...I DID NOT SEND HIM THAT DM; however, I know the person who did. She is an extremely sweet person, and she goes soooooo hard for Trey. She was in tears all day after Trey outted her and then unfollowed her. On top of that, she was receiving nasty tweets from it.
I DM'd Trey to tell him that she didn't mean any harm, that she loves him, that we all do, and to please give her another chance. I guess Trey didn't appreciate me DM'ing him about her - guess he was really pissed at her, so he unfollowed me too.
Now I know it's just a follow - it doesn't pay my bills on anything like that, but it was special. It meant a lot to me. The fact that I was the 800 & something person that he followed back in 2010 was extremely special. I was in his top 1000 people that he followed. Additionally, I worked hard for that follow. I stood from 5 p.m. to 8 p.m. in stillettos getting emails from people so we can send them emails to become a Trey's Angel. I can never get that back...soley because I wanted to help another Angel.
I went from being hurt to angry with Trey. Angry because he didn't DM me back and say, "Stay out of it." Instead he just unfollowed me...with no explanation. The other thing that bothered me is that this was a fan that was upset about something, rather he agreed or not, she was still a fan...rocking w/ him since 2005 and taking the time to create a poster for him. She loved him and he made her cry all day on her birthday. He should've DM'd her about it...not put it on Twitter to have other Angels attacking her. Then to not be receptive to criticism (which is what she supplied in her DM) was just wrong. If you can't take criticism from the ones who love you...who can you take it from? Then to unfollow me...an Angel with a HEART...was so disappointing. I solely wanted to help another Angel & let him know she meant no harm. Why was my punishment an unfollow that I worked so hard for. I don't understand and I am extremely hurt by Trey. I am still a fan, I will always be and I convinced her to forgive him as well. I'm in the situation so it's a lot more sensitive to me...maybe I'm wrong. What do you think?
@Sis
I could imagine that would be overwhelming to see people venting about his last show. A show he put a lot of effort into just to turn around and have some people not too happy. And I can totally understand the feelings of those that felt left out. I just hope they realized it may have slipped his mind to shout out the angels, but IΒm sure it was in his heart to do so. Yes by the time he got to her dm it already had mounted up. Trey out all people should be able to get take the criticism, but I know it gets hard for him at times. I hope yaΒll get a chance to repair the situation too.
@Humbleheart:
I wish he wouldnΒt take comments made towards him too personally either, but as many have stated he is only human. HeΒs a confident young man and that should be what drives him. However, I know he likes/loves external encouragement as well. I know Trey gets the negativity thrown at him on a daily basis especially on these social networks. I agree our self worth shouldnΒt be determine by others.
At tha end of tha day wether he is a celebrity or not trey has feelings too tha comment she made about wishing tha plane had crash what if it actually happened?? think about that we fans gotta control out selves just like trey if tha man is hurt he's hurt not b|c he's a celebrity he has feelings like us blood run through him as well he may unfollow a few and it hurts them but hey can u realli blame him? i can say trey has such a strong effect on some of Lives and he's such a big part of our life and at times i don't think hes knows tha fans will go to tha extreme for him alot of us may say he didnt handle tha situation right but what if we was in his position we will say anything b|c were not tha one it happened to and don't me wrong again im sayin how i feel not taking sides a mean we don't know how many times fans have bashed mean comments at him he may have been having a bad day too ? yea we can look at it a million ways think of ifs but do"s and dont but as i said he's human just like us leave out him being a celebrity
@TreyzOneLove I definitely agree that it shouldn't have been sent, but I think the young lady really didn't think it over. Expressions can be interpreted completely different than how it was intended. She was kind of pouting about it...not angry about not being noticed. It seems as though he took it as an angry message. I know that Trey can't acknowledge everything and she actually knows that too...it was just a momentary lapse of judgment.
You also mentioned the fact that Trey felt unappreciated after he decided to tour off a mixtape for his fans. I love Trey but anytime you got 10s & thousands of fans filling up stadiums to see you...obviously you are appreciated. I don't buy that as a good reason for him to do that...I can't even imagine him thinking that. If that was his rationality...he completely missed the bigger picture. Yes he toured on a mixtape but it wasn't free. The girl was in the audience at the concert. She spent her hard earned money to see you, and she took the time to make a poster...obviously she loves you. I did VIP so I definitely appreciate him. I won't know what Trey's rationality behind it until I speak to him about it so I won't focus too much on that. I just thought it was odd and like I said, just hurtful.
@Sis - yes I was thinking that he might've gotten several messages that day. A bunch of people were upset about that last concert. Others had mentioned that Trey showed them no love and many of them were venting about it on Twitter. So if all those people DM'd him, along with her about it...quite naturally he was probably pissed. According to some of the tweets I read, Trey didn't acknowledge his Angels. I saw at least 4 tweets about this so I don't know - maybe they were all DMing him about it. He got fed up, but as an artist you have to be able to take criticism, especially from the people who love you. I will chalk it up to a bad day that I hope we have a chance to repair.
As for the young lady, I think that is sweet that she is writing a letter to him. Even if he doesn't receive it, I think that it will be theraputic for her healing process. She definitely should not let this situation get her down. I hope her friends are showering her with love and encouraging her during this time. Rejection can be a hard thing to overcome. At least she knows that if she overcame this, she can overcome any other form of rejection that the enemy may try to bring her way to lower her self-esteem. She is a strong young lady :)
"As much as Trey tries to give off this tough exterior within I believe he is a rather sensitive person. "~JIMS
I believe that, too. I think he shouldn't take the comments ppl make too personally. He knows who he is, and that should be enough. We're not defined by what ppl say about us. I know that sometimes what ppl say can hurt our self-esteem and make us think that we have to prove something, but our worth is not in the words of others. God says I am great, and I believe the One that never lies over the voices of any others :) Also, sometimes ppl may say/do something hurtful and not realize that they're doing it. I think this goes for both Trey and the young lady who was hurt.
"I know that one is a persona and the other is a regular person, but Tremaine wanted to become Trey Songz. By now, he should be used to the way things work concerning his fans. We love Trey Songz and we only feel closer to him if we think he's giving us a piece of Tremaine as well. He knows how special we feel when he gives us the slightest nod and he claims to appreciate us for all that we do. To unfollow a person for ruffling his feathers, I don't know. Β
I agree with yall to a certain extent. To me, Trey Songz is a career choice/profession and Tremaine Neverson is who he is. He was always Tremaine, and even when he decides not to be Trey Songz anymore (retire), he will still be Tremaine. I don't think his fans have an entitlement to his personal life. I believe that he should be able to choose to share what parts of him he wants the public to see. There is a big difference between the part of you that you share with an acquaintance and what you share with a close friend. Everyone doesn't know everything and everyone can't partake in everything. Entitlement is based off relationship. I think he gives his fans a lot (follows, shout outs, concerts, etc.), so he definitely values yall. In return, yall should value his need to keep some things to himself :)
:) @????? Miss Trey Songz ?????
i dont think ur wrong u were just trying to help a friend because i know i was trying to help her also by takin pics while she held her sign up. i wanted him to see her sign also and i didnt even know her until the show. all in all i dont think u should have been punished for helpin a friend on her birthday.
lol @jesusismysavior agree with some of what ur saying
I know that one is a persona and the other is a regular person, but Tremaine wanted to become Trey Songz. By now, he should be used to the way things work concerning his fans. We love Trey Songz and we only feel closer to him if we think he's giving us a piece of Tremaine as well. He knows how special we feel when he gives us the slightest nod and he claims to appreciate us for all that we do. To unfollow a person for ruffling his feathers, I don't know. Β
ThereΒs no filter with Trey he will keep it real with you. HeΒs known to get his fans in check. I think Trey Songz and Tremaine are intertwined.
ΒRemember, he's not innocent in that manner either. When he said something to another celeb (as a FAN) and that person didn't like it, we all stood up and supported him. A lot of people went at him hard for that too. But his Angels stood up for him.
Maybe I am judging now, but to unfollow someone is to cut off a direct connection to him. It's like he's saying that he doesn't care if he loses a fan or two. I understand that he can't cater to his fans' feelings, but he should realize that we do have feelings too and our feelings carry him a long way.Β
You are right many of his fans did stand behind him when he made those comments. I agree the unfollow does cause disconnection. I agree with what you said but we have to be mindful of what his mental state was when he started unfollowing people.
"I'm granting him that but he is gone have to make it up to me. I'm gonna need 3 kisses (on the cheek), a piggyback ride, and we gone play hide n' seek. LMAO"
I hope you get all the above and more. You deserve it. LOL
As much as Trey tries to give off this tough exterior within I believe he is a rather sensitive person.
@Sis You know me I try to rationalize the situation. I just donΒt understand why he would take offense to what you and your friend said. IΒve seen him get similar tweets and his response is usually a lot different. He tends to responded to tweets like that in a kinder way. IΒm gathering he might have had a not so great moment. We never know if he read some hurtful tweets prior to reading your friendΒs tweet. And as you stated it might have been something in her message that made him reach his limit. Instead of internalizing it he took it out on some of his true fans. I think talking to him at the next VIP gathering would be a great idea. God willing his mind will be in a different place and he will follow you and your friend back. It isnΒt cool to unfollow people all randomly like that. It should be a real reason to unfollow. Even though he temporarily unfollowed you I would still consider myself in the top 1000. I think itΒs great that you and your friend continue to be fans of Trey even with this situation. I think itΒs a good idea she going to write him a letter too.
AGREE WITH U @TREYONLYLOVE YHUP YHUP
When I saw that he had RT tha, I also thought he was showing love, u knw, like my bad. But now that I know he outed her n then unfollowed her, like OMG Tremaine. All I could say is he must have been really havin a bad day n wasn't for the bs. He had to be cuz the fact that he put her on blast, unfollowed u n her is cray! I don't think she should have sent Trey that DM at all. I know she made the poster to get his attention, but that didn't mean she was goin to get it. He may have felt like she was being ungrateful because the fact that he went n had this tour for a mixtape shows his love for us. Then she doesn't enjoy the show because all she was looking for was a s/o, I'm sorry but to me it seems like he probably felt like her intentions were all in the wrong place. I'm not sayin he was right or wrong for what he did but I'm speakin off how I felt when I read that message n he may have felt that same way.
Again I'm not sayin how he handled the situation was right or wrong. Obviously that message upset him n it may have even hurt his feelings that he gave his all on tha stage for us n that was the thanks that he got. *Trey shrug*
At the end of the day he was upset about it n he handled the situation in his moment of anger. That's why we have to be careful of what we say to Trey n each other. I know us , Angels go hard for Trey but we have to remember Trey goes hard for us as well! N if he is giving us his all on that stage n then he see sum ish like that, especially from a fan, it can be very hurtful. We too have to be considerate of Treys feelings as well! But that's just my opinion.
@Humbleheart Thank you honey! That was very sweet of you to say. The young lady is starting to heal and plans to apologize to Trey.
@Essence - my mind went through all of that - that he didn't care about losing a fan or two here and there because he had made it already. I tell you I went from hurt to being extremely mad and almost unfollowed him. Then I calmed down and realized I could never stop listening to his music or appreciating him for his creative work. I calmed down a little more and reminded myself that he was human and that every encounter I have had with him and I've met him several times - he has always been gracious and approachable. I'm not going to hold one negative incident against him. Yes I wish he would've done things differently, but all I can do is forgive him for his moment of bad judgment...I know I've been there and I wanted mercy too. I'm granting him that but he is gone have to make it up to me. I'm gonna need 3 kisses (on the cheek), a piggyback ride, and we gone play hide n' seek. LMAO
@Sis - I was thinking the same thing that he may not have been sober when he did it. I also thought it was so uncharacteristic of him, but maybe he had reached his limit that day. I have no idea but I plan to do VIP for Chapter V and talk to him about it then...just to simply let him know how much that hurt. Unfollowing people all willy nilly ain't cool...especially the way my mind works regarding that follow. He can unfollow someone else and then follow them back months later & they may be okay with it but he took away my position in his follows. Being in the top 1000 was precious to me. I can't get that back now. Plus what I did to get that follow...it was after collecting emails for him. But I am getting over it & you know I'll always be a fan. I still love him. Regarding the young lady that DM'd him, she plans to write an apology letter to him. I thought that was a good idea. She definitely still loves & supports him.
At first I was happy, all screaming and what not. Then I looked at his face and he was looking dead at the screen. I got a little scared like I thought he was looking dead at me. Then he read another girl's comment and did the same thing. Then I asked him a question and he read the question with such sarcasm in his tone. I'm telling you, my heart started beating faster and I just felt like he caught me doing something bad.
For the next few days I didn't tweet anything on twitter. A friend of mine had to really convince me that whether Trey saw my tweets or not, out of his thousands (at that time) of followers, he's really paying attention to me?
Eventually, I got over my feelings and continued my love affair (in my mind) with Trey. He's still number one to me.
I wonder though, why is it that when Trey is being all sweet to his fans, all is good with him as Trey Songz, but when he gets real and shows us a different side, that's supposed to be him being Tremaine Neverson.
I know that one is a persona and the other is a regular person, but Tremaine wanted to become Trey Songz. By now, he should be used to the way things work concerning his fans. We love Trey Songz and we only feel closer to him if we think he's giving us a piece of Tremaine as well. He knows how special we feel when he gives us the slightest nod and he claims to appreciate us for all that we do. To unfollow a person for ruffling his feathers, I don't know.
Remember, he's not innocent in that manner either. When he said something to another celeb (as a FAN) and that person didn't like it, we all stood up and supported him. A lot of people went at him hard for that too. But his Angels stood up for him.
Maybe I am judging now, but to unfollow someone is to cut off a direct connection to him. It's like he's saying that he doesn't care if he loses a fan or two. I understand that he can't cater to his fans' feelings, but he should realize that we do have feelings too and our feelings carry him a long way.
WOW!! I'm so sorry he unfollowed you and the other Angel. That is a very harsh punishment. I admire you for forgiving him. When I read the tweet the other day, I thought that Trey sent it out to say that he was acknowledging the girl at that moment, and I didn't think he had meant her any harm. I also didn't know that the tweet from the girl was a DM. Now looking at the situation, I feel shocked that he would unfollow you two. He just got finished doing those tours and giving all of that charity to his fans because he cares so much. Now this? I don't understand. I'm not judging him because I don't know him personally and I don't know how he takes certain criticisms, but I'm just surprised to see that he'd unfollow you just like that.
Trey doesn't follow me, and I don't know if he ever will, but I'm so sensitive, I feel funny when non celebs unfollow me on twitter, whether I know them or not. I'm just saying that I can imagine how hurt you were when it happened from Trey. Glad to know that the pain is fading.
I kind of know what it feels like to catch Trey's anger. When twitter first came out, a group of us followed Trey and we tweeted all kinds of stuff about him. Nothing was off limits, so the conversations led into his private life. Yeah, we hated on the chicks we thought he was involved with. I guess we didn't realize that everybody you mention on twitter can find your tweets about them, so this one girl began to put out tweets denying her involvement with Trey, that must have got him mad because he started tweeting out comments about 'haters' and people who need to mind their business about his private life.
Then, like the next day Troy Taylor did a Ustream and me and the other tweeters continued our conversation in there. Now y'all know lurking is a bitch! Trey came into the room where Troy was doing the class and he looked MAD! He started reading the screen and saying certain comments out loud and I remember this because he said one of my comments.
I totally agree with you @humbleheart
I agree with everything everyone said. He is human, and he is only one person. He probably didn't even see the girl's poster, so he probably got frustrated that his fans sometimes expect so much from him. I agree, that his fans do not know him personally, so they cannot expect him to know when it is their birthday or give them the personal attention that a close friend or boyfriend would give. I personally think that he was probably exhausted from just coming off a tour, preparing for a new album, etc. and got a little overwhelmed. We all have our moments and none of us our perfect. And again, I guess that comes with being so personal with your fans. Sometimes the fans forget that they are not apart of the artist's personal life and vice versa. Being in the public eye so much, he probably feels like there is part of himself that he wants to keep for him, without all of the pressure. Maybe he just wants to be Tremaine Neverson sometimes without all of the duties of Trey Songz the artist.
Tricia, I admire your compassion, you willingness to help a friend, and your willingness to forgive. I believe that your heart was in the right place. You are a true friend :) I wouldn't take the unfollow personally; you appear to be a very supportive fan, and he is blessed to have you in his corner. I also hope the young lady can heal. She's been blessed with another year of life and that's always something to be happy about. Tomorrow is another day and there is always a fresh start for all of us...even Trey lol :)
ΒBy the way, no I don't agree with the DM that was sent to him. It definitely could've been reworded or not sent at all, but she is young and didn't know any better. I certainly know Trey can't respond to everything from his fans...she now knows that as well. I just believe the punishment of putting it on Twitter and unfollowing her was too harsh. He didn't mention her name, but by her being young and not knowing any better, she told on herself which resulted in many hate tweets. That's a lot for a young girl to bear...especially on her birthday. She spent her entire birthday crying...Trey underestimates the power he has on others. I'm no where near over the top when it comes to Trey, but even I was hurt. I know he's human and he makes mistakes, which is why I certainly forgive him and I convinced her to do the same...human or not, it doesn't make it hurt any less.Β
It is a lot for a young person, heck itΒs a lot for anyone and IΒm sorry she has to go through that. IΒm not sure if he underestimates his power on people, but he does have a powerful influence. Honestly IΒm glad you two have forgiven him. He might be having one of his moments were something isnΒt going right in his life.
Wow! ThatΒs crazy sis. I know people like to get their recognition at his shows but that isnΒt always possible. It isnΒt possible for him to see and shout out everyone. I didnΒt realize that was a dm sent to him. I thought it was apart of his mentions or timeline. I wish he used better judgment before he posted her comment. I wonder if he was sober when he did it. I think itΒs very childish for people to send people nasty tweets.
IΒm not trying to defend him but I find it awfully strange that he would take offense to what you did. All you were trying to do is set the record straight. It is disappointing. You did work hard to get your follow and I hope in due time when Trey is in a better mindset he will follow you back. Even though I donΒt know Trey personally it just seems uncharacteristic. He usually puts those that are attacking him on blast. I pray this situation works itself out because I know for sure you are one of the loyal and dedicated fans.
@tricia i understand hun i hope he follows u back tho its crazy but u can see how much of a good person u are trying to help and u also go hard for trey but give him time im sure he will come around and true some fans expect so high of him i mean u can be they must not get so caught up too much remember trey is only one person and i believe if you're a true fan u wont do or say certain things like pass bad remarks hate etc about someone who u say ur a fan of rem they celebs they stay busy y u think they cherish they fans soo much cause when they get a change with us they make tha best of it i know trey didn't mean no hard he just got caught up as well and i hope others don't look at a trey as a bad person b|c hes realli now but i hope u call can re unite @tricia
@Miss Trey Songz Oh honey I understand exactly what you're saying. I know you meant it generally, I was just saying I personally would never expect him to acknowledge everything - I don't know why so many other people expect it. He is only one man. I think he does a great job of showing us love. He shows he appreciates us more than some other artists.
@TreysNewestAngel1 You are absolutely right. He may feel bad about it and has no way of reaching out to us. It's not as though he can tweet, "who are the girls I unfollowed again?" His mentions would fill up with everyone who wants a follow. LOL Part of me thinks that he didn't even read my DM - I think he was just so mad at the situation with the other girl that he just started unfollowing anyone who DM'd him about it. He unfollowed several people that day. With time everything begins to heal. I feel better than I did yesterday. No tears about it today. :-)
@tricia don't get me wrong ok i never said u was expecting him to answer everything we say i was just sayin fans in general need to understand themselves too trey is human just like us he has feelings too just like us fans he ain't gonna respond ro everything but he sees it things never had to be dealt with like this cause its a simple matter not takin sides i am just saying
I'm sooooo sorry this happened to you two ladies. You did the best thing by forgiving him. I know that it will take some time to forget, but whose to say that at the time he wasn't going through something and then seeing this DM made it worst?! Alot of times, we let our personal feelings get in the way of situations that absolutely has nothing to do with what we are going through. Just keep going hard for Trey. Whose to say he doesn't feel bad about what he has done, and is just waiting for the right time to say something. To others he was wrong, but noone knows where his mind and heart is right now about this situation.
@MekaLoves - Thank you for your kinds words. Yes, I will always love Trey. He is still my favorite artist no matter what. I go very hard for him along with many others, so I don't expect anything from Trey but respect. I always felt like I got that from him until this. I'm not holding it against him - I understand he is human. I just wish he would've thought about it more and not let his anger dictate his actions throughout the day, especially since his actions have a powerful effect. He's loved and admired and that won't change.
@Miss Trey Songz - I would never expect Trey to acknowledge everything a fan does for him. Again, it was solely the immaturity from the person who DM'd him and expected that from him. Nonetheless, she does love him and goes hard for him as well...even harder than I do. Even though she was wrong, she still meant no harm.
@Sis - What you said is the main reason why I forgive Trey - I know he doesn't know me or her individually; therefore, he doesn't know our intentions. He's been getting some negative slack so he took her comments harshly. I just think back on the chick that wished his plane would crash. He DM'd her and asked her why would she say that. She apologized and he forgave her. He didn't unfollow or block her. Now a fan that is upset about not getting acknowledged gets unfollowed, and one trying to defend an Angel that meant no harm got unfollowed. It just doesn't add up. Trey was in his feelings that day & I get he was having a bad day. It's understandable. I just hate that I can never get back what I had. It can be repaired like a car in a major accident, but it won't run like new again. He may refollow me someday but it won't be the same as the original follow. Regardless, I love him unconditionally.
Wow sis! This post actually surprised me. I don't think you're wrong for feeling the way you do at all. I see both sides of this though. In my opinion I do think Trey should have kept that DM private since she made it for his eyes only. He should've just responded back to her the same way. I saw that tweet that he put out there from her...I have to say she did go hard on him but she was expressing how she felt. You can't fault no one for that. Like you said she's young and was hurt which is understandable. I think at the same time we all tend to think we know Trey and we don't. You have to be careful as well about what you put out there. You don't know how he's going to respond to it, so be prepared either way.
Speaking generally the thing we all have to keep in mind is that Trey doesn't really know any of us. He deals with hate and negativity all the time. Everyone doesn't have his back. We as his fans also do expect a lot from him. Who knows where his head was when he read that. He also is only one person who can't see everything and know how we each individually go hard for him.
I'm not making any excuses for his actions because I do think they were a bit harsh. And as a fan I would be hurt too, because I know my intentions, but he doesn't. Therefore he handled it the way he handled it. I think things should've been handled differently, but again this is just my opinion. Should he have un-followed you? No. You were only trying to help a fellow Angel out who was very upset about the outcome of her actions. This was her fight...not yours. I'm so sorry things turned out this way for her and I'm really sorry that you ended up being affected by it too. MY THOUGHTS!
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